So in the middle Star Wars: The Force Awakens, while Kylo Ren is interrogating his newly acquired prisoner, Rey, he is inspired to remove his helmet revealing his very human, sad little face. As he does this he places his helmet upon a mysterious pile of ashes. What’s the deal?

Director J.J. Abrams recently discussed all the deleted scenes included on the Blu-Ray/DVD, which was just released April 5, with Entertainment Weekly and gave a little insight into the morbid ash heap:

“The backstory is, that that table has the ashes of the enemies he’s killed,” Abrams says. “That moment was actually shot for, and meant to be used in, the scene where he was talking to the Vader mask.”

Oh dear. So then those ashes were actually part of his weird ancestral shrine to Grandpa Vader? Ben Solo has–issues.


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At least we haven’t hit Primus-Mr.-Krinkle-level insanity. Yet.


Again we ask, whose ashes? Let’s step aside from his crazy-ass penchant for keeping the remains of his victims, much like dramatized deranged Vietnam soldiers kept the ears of their enemies on a necklace, for a moment. Who pissed him off that much yet warranted some semblance of reverence to be brought into his private chambers to serve as a foundation for daily communions with Grandpa? Kylo likely has numerous kills on his dossier so whoever these ashes belong to feasibly set themselves apart from the general peasantry in some interesting fashion.

We can always hope this is a thread that will be pursued in Episode VIII or beyond because the curiosity is palpable now. Though hopefully we can get an image of Force Ghost Anakin utterly facepalming his grandson at some point. Even Vader wasn’t this messed up.


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Plus he probably wouldn’t be too keen on the whole fire and ashes thing.


We’ll just have to be patient for the next installment to delve further into the legacy of whimpering and occasional insanity that is the Skywalker clan. Star Wars: Episode VIII will hit theaters December 15, 2017.


Images via Interscope, Lucasfilm